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Mathaeus Wider

Mathaeus Wider (I1912)

Male 1737 - 1818  (80 years)

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  • Name Mathaeus Wider  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
    Relationshipwith Albert Leopold Vitter
    Birth 2 Sep 1737  Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 4
    Bietingen Germany To Clerval France Map Document
    Bietingen Konstanz Baden-Wurt Germany Map Document
    Gender Male 
    Name Mathieu Vitter/Witter Widder Widdere  [2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8
    Occupation Gypseur (plasterer)  [2, 3
    Occupation Plâtrier (plasterer)  [2, 3
    Occupation 1800  [4
    Couvreur (roofer) 
    Reference Number 1952 
    Residence 1799  Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 4, 6
    originally thought to be Biethiruge (Birlhinge?), canton de Chafferesse (Schaffhouse (Bade)), Suenchingen 
    Death 28 May 1818  Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Siblings 2 brothers and 3 sisters 
     1. Elisabetha Wider,   b. 28 Jul 1729, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED
     2. Sebastianus Wider,   b. Abt 18 Jan 1730/31, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED
     3. Joan Simon Wider,   b. Abt 11 Feb 1731/32, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED
     4. Anna Marias Wider,   b. 1733, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED
     5. Ursula Wider,   b. Abt 27 Oct 1735, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED
     6. Mathaeus Wider (current person),   b. 2 Sep 1737, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 28 May 1818, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years)
    Maria Ursula Jaeckle,   b. 1737, Ebringen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1813, Ebringen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years),  m. 2 Aug 1767, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  
     
    Notes 
    Person ID I1912  Vitter-Weaver Genealogy | Jeff Vitter's Ancestor
    Last Modified 23 Oct 2023 

    Father Joannes Wider,   b. 1701   d. DECEASED 
    Mother Maria Schneble,   b. 1700   d. 17 Dec 1739, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 39 years) 
    Marriage 31 Oct 1728  Catholic Church, Gailingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 9
    • The mother's name on each of the four birth records for the four children is unique. It's possible that Joannes was married multiple times. Or perhaps the four names are variants for the same person. On verra!
    Reference Number 24516 
    Family ID F833  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Maria Ursula Jaeckle,   b. 1737, Ebringen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1813, Ebringen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 76 years) 
    Marriage 2 Aug 1767  Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 4, 8
    Reference Number 13995 
    Children 
     1. Prudentiana Wider,   b. 24 May 1768, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 5 Mar 1821 (Age 52 years)
     2. Judith Wider,   b. 11 Dec 1769, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED
     3. Hérard Vitter,   b. 8 Jan 1772, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 26 Jan 1848, Home of son Jacques-Joseph Vitter, Clerval, Doubs, Franche-Comté, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 76 years)
     4. Vitalis Wider,   b. 28 Apr 1775, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. DECEASED
     5. Sebastianus Wider,   b. 20 Jan 1779, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 4 Mar 1842, Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 63 years)
    Family ID F29303  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 23 Oct 2023 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 2 Sep 1737 - Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 2 Aug 1767 - Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - originally thought to be Biethiruge (Birlhinge?), canton de Chafferesse (Schaffhouse (Bade)), Suenchingen - 1799 - Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 28 May 1818 - Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    Bietingen Germany
    Bietingen Germany

    Documents
    Bietingen Germany To Clerval France Map Document
    Bietingen Germany To Clerval France Map Document
    Bietingen Konstanz Baden-Wurt Germany Map Document
    Bietingen Konstanz Baden-Wurt Germany Map Document

    Histories
    Avant et après le « Aha! moment »
    Before Jeff Vitter's Aha! moment described above, Jeff and his dad did not know much at all about where the Vitter line came from. Much correspondence behind the scenes — both electronic as well as old-fashioned hardcopy letters — led up to and beyond the big discovery. This history gives an inside look at the correspondences that genealogists…

    Articles
    Le sang qui coule dans nos veines (The Blood That Runs in Our Veins)
    Jean-Pierre solved the mystery from 17 years earlier in his report, A tous les Vitter du monde (To All the Vitters in the World), about how the Vitter family got to France. He reveals that Hérard Vitter was actually born as "Erhardus Wider" and came to Clerval, France from Bietingen (near Gottmadingen), Germany, which is on the Swiss border,…
    A tous les Vitter du monde (To All the Vitters in the World)
    A comprehensive and entertaining account of the Vitter generations. The story starts with their ancestor Hérard Vitter, who moved from "l'Autriche antérieure" to the town of Clerval in the Doubs region of France in the late 1700s. Hérard's father in the old country was Mathieu Vitter, and Hérard's son Pierre is the one described above who…

  • Sources 
    1. [S894] Birth Records, Mathaeus Wider, Germany, Baden, Archdiocese of Freiburg im Breisgau, Catholic Church Records, 1678–1930.

    2. [S1252] Jean-Pierre Vitter, A tous les Vitter du monde, (Name: Self; Location: France; Date: October 2002;), Mathaeus/Mathieu Wider, page 4, 7ff.
      https://vitter.org/Genealogy/Documents/JeanPierreVitterBook.pdf

    3. [S1382] Jean-Pierre Vitter, Le sang qui coule dans nos veines (The Blood That Runs in Our Veins), (Name: Self; Location: France; Date: 2019;), Jean-Pierre Vitter.
      This manuscript is a comprehensive and very entertaining account of the Vitter generations written by Jean-Pierre Vitter (Jeff Vitter's 4th cousin, 1x removed) in October 2002. It's easily translated, e.g., using Google Translate. The story starts with Jeff's 4th great grandfather Hérard Vitter, who moved from "l'Autriche Antérieure" to the town of Clerval in the Doubs region of France in the 1700s. Hérard's father in the old country was Mathieu Vitter, and his son Pierre is the one who emigrated from France to New Orleans in 1843. The big mystery that remained was exactly where Hérard Vitter came from originally. (See JPV's follow-on work, Le sang qui coule dans nos veines, for answers.)
      https://vitter.org/Genealogy/Documents/JeanPierreVitterBook2.pdf

    4. [S1257] Jean-Pierre Vitter, Family Database of Jean-Pierre Vitter, (Location: MyHeritage.fr;), https://www.myheritage.fr/person-7000161_243971531_243971531/maria-jakle.
      Ajouté en confirmant une Smart Match

    5. [S307] Jeffrey & Sharon Vitter, Family Database of Vitter-Weaver Family, (Name: Self; Location: New Orleans, Louisiana, USA; Date: Since 1996;), Après et avant le Aha! moment.
      As highlighted in "The Aha! Moment That Led to This Website," Jeff Vitter made a big breakthrough in December 2000 when he discovered when, where, and how his Vitter ancestors came from Europe to the USA. Much correspondence behind the scenes led up to and beyond that discovery. This history gives an inside look at the correspondences that genealogists engage in and how what we understand grows (we hope!) with time.
      https://www.vitter.org/familytree/histories/jeffemail2001.php

    6. [S307] Jeffrey & Sharon Vitter, Family Database of Vitter-Weaver Family, (Name: Self; Location: New Orleans, Louisiana, USA; Date: Since 1996;), How the Vitters Got to Clerval.
      19 years after Jeff Vitter's Aha! moment described above, Jean-Pierre Vitter resolves the mystery of where in Europe the Vitter family came from originally and how they got to France in the late 1700s.
      https://vitter.org/familytree/histories/JeanPierreVitter.php

    7. [S307] Jeffrey & Sharon Vitter, Family Database of Vitter-Weaver Family, (Name: Self; Location: New Orleans, Louisiana, USA; Date: Since 1996;), Descendants of Simon Wider (1667–1737) and Ursula Wick (born circa 1670) and Anna Maria Schietknecht (born 1678).
      Simon Wider (1667–1737) is a 7th great grandfather of Jeffrey S. Vitter, co-host of this website vitter.org. Simon lived in Bietingen, Konstanz, Baden-Württemberg, Germany (near the eastern border of Schaffhouse, Switzerland). His great grandson Hérard Vitter (1772–1848, born Erhardus Wider) immigrated roughly 150 miles west to Clerval, France from Bietingen in 1799. Hérard's son Pierre Vitter (1803–1846) immigrated to New Orleans, Louisiana via Le Havre, France with his family in 1843.
      https://vitter.org/familytree/register.php?personID=I40609&tree=vittertree1&generations=50&tngmore=1

    8. [S2040] Georgiana Nicholson Ely, Family Database of John Frederick Pieper, (Name: Self; Location: Erie, Pennsylvania, USA;), Ancestry chart of John Frederick Pieper.

    9. [S511] Germany, Select Marriages, (Location: Local parish and civil records and index;).
      Record for Joannes Wider
      https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J4T6-TQN



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