Joseph Wallace

Male Abt 1752 - 1807  (~ 55 years)


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  • Name Joseph Wallace  [1, 2
    Born Abt 1752  Deer Park Townland, Ardstraw, Tyrone, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died Jun 1807  York, South Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I32332  Vitter-Weaver Genealogy
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2020 

    Father Oliver Wallace,   b. 1720, Ardstraw, Tyrone, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1774, York, South Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 54 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Mary Kinkead,   b. Between 1720 and 1730, Ardstraw, Tyrone, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1773, York, South Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 54 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Married Bef 1751  Branagh's, Ardstraw, Tyrone, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F24415  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Jane ?,   b. Bef 1755,   d. Bef 1810, York, South Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age < 55 years) 
    Children 
     1. William Wallace,   b. 12 Jan 1787, Union, South Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jan 1823, Blount, Tennessee, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 36 years)  [natural]
     2. James Wallace,   b. 1793,   d. 1863  (Age 70 years)  [natural]
    Last Modified 20 Sep 2020 
    Family ID F24411  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    1. [S1125] Notes of Wallace Family, The False Scottish Ancestry of William Wallace, by John Schmeeckle.
      EDIT: There has been a DNA test for a descendant of our Wallace family (descended through William's son Matthias), in Group 5 at http://www.familytreedna.com/public/WallaceDNA/default.aspx?section=ycolorized
      The results closely match those for Lt. William Wallace (1755-1800) of Rutherford County, North Carolina. For further information on this apparent close relative of our William Wallace (likely an uncle --he had a brother Joseph -- see below), see http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/WALLACE/2011-01/1294165825 and http://kinnexions.com/smlawson/wallace.htm#WWallace

      SUMMARY
      1) Census records show that William Wallace (d. 1823 Tennessee) was born in South Carolina.
      2) The claim that William Wallace was born in Ayr, Scotland, is false and most likely fraudulent.
      3) It appears that William Wallace was the son of Joseph Wallace of York Co., South Carolina.
      William Wallace was born in South Carolina
      --The 1880 census for William's second son John N. Wallace, in San Joaquin County, California, states that John's father was born in South Carolina and his mother was born in Ireland. Furthermore, John N. Wallace himself was born in South Carolina.
      --The 1880 census for William's daughter Elizabeth C. (Wallace) Jones, in Davis Co., Iowa, states that Elizabeth's father was born in South Carolina and her mother was born in Ireland.
      --The 1900 census for William's son Matthias Turner Wallace, in Woods County, Oklahoma, states that Matthias's father was born in South Carolina and his mother was born in Ireland.

      Now, let's check the census records for William Wallace's youngest son, Robert Biers Wallace. Robert's 1880 census, in Rice County, Kansas, states that his father was born in TENNESSEE and his mother was born in Ireland. However, this changes in Robert's 1900 census, in Fremont County, Colorado, which states that his father was born in SCOTLAND and his mother was born in Ireland. This appears to be the earliest claim that William Wallace was born in Scotland. It seems that Robert, living in "northern" states after the Civil War, felt nervous about publicly admitting his family's Deep South origin. I have seen this in many post-civil-war records: people in the north were inclined to hide their southern origins.

      We have an additional piece of evidence, the biographical sketch of Samuel Bowers, son-in-law of William Donaldson Wallace, which appears in Portrait and Biographical Album of Sedgwick County, Kansas (1888), p. 830 (online at http://www.archive.org/details/portraitbiograph05chap) Writing about Samuel's wife, Sarah E. Wallace, it states: "Her paternal grandparents, William and Mary (Nesbit) Wallace, were natives respectively of West Virginia and Ireland. Grandmother Wallace came to the United States with her parents when a child three years of age." Here we have "West Virginia" instead of South Carolina for the place of origin of the Wallace family, once again hiding the family's Deep South roots.

      False Scottish ancestry

      There is a book entitled The Wallace Family Genealogy, compiled in 1961 by Mrs. Glen E. Rush, which contains a false (and apparently fraudulent) ancestral lineage for William Wallace who died in 1823 at Blount Co., Tennessee. This false lineage states that William Wallace (died 1823 in Tennessee) was the son of William and Jean (Campbell) Wallace of Ayr, Scotland, and grandson of Thomas and Lillias (Cuneinghame) Wallace. This Wallace Family Genealogy has been posted online at http://www.scribd.com/doc/30179347/Wallace-Family-History . It is a big file, so it might take a while to upload.
      According to the 1952 edition of Burke’s Landed Gentry, the husband of Lilias Cunningham was named Thomas Wallace, and this couple did indeed have a son William, who married Jean Campbell. Their son William, a Colonel in the 80th Regiment, died unmarried at Scoor, East Indies, 11 May 1809. It appears that somebody fraudulently identified William Wallace (died 1823 at Blount Co., Tenn.), with this Scottish military man who never married, and the false family history has spread far and wide over the internet. Furthermore, the Wallace Family Genealogy's story of William Wallace marrying Mary Ann Nesbitt in Ireland is obviously false if the story in the Sedgwick County history that Mary Ann came to America with her parents at the age of three is true.
      It appears that William was the son of Joseph Wallace
      The evidence suggesting that William's father was named Joseph appears in the name of William's eldest son: JOSEPH. Scottish naming traditions decreed that the eldest son be named for the father's father, and that the second son be named for the mother's father. William Wallace's second son, John Nesbitt Wallace, was clearly named for his wife's father, so it stands to reason that William's eldest son (Joseph) was named for his own father.

      There is an additional piece of suggestive evidence. Recently I was looking around ancestry.com and discovered a reference to our William Wallace in a family tree that cites a June 2004 article in the journal of the York County (South Carolina) Genealogical and Historical Society. Information from this article is incorporated in the "Waxhaws and Beyond" family tree posted here at ancestry.com by wendycroom, who writes in her citation for Joseph Wallace's marriage: "Information on this family and the family of son James Wallace from YCGHS June 2004 article by Richard E. Wallace. (wwc/6-2004). Census numbers indicate that this couple had as many as 11 children - six boys and five girls. Nothing is known of the girls. Three sons were born before 1790 and three more between 1790 and 1800." According to the "Waxhaws and Beyond" family tree, Joseph Wallace of York County had sons John, William, and James.

      Here is a website dealing with Oliver Wallace of York County, South Carolina, who is the correct age to be grandfather of our William Wallace: http://kinnexions.com/smlawson/wallace.htm

      YCGHS June 2004
      Posted 25 Jun 2011 by John Schmeeckle
      JAMES WALLACE (1793-1863) by Richard E. Wallace
      Joseph Wallace (pre 1755-ca 1807) and his wife Jane (pre 1755-p 1810} may have had as many as11 children, six boys and five girls. These numbers come from the York Census tallies for 1790 and 1800. Of the possible sons of Joseph Wallace, three were born before 1790 and three were born 1790-1800. Joseph (1777-1864) and William (ca 1785-ca 1823) were two sons born before 1790, and the subject of this article was among those born after 1790. I'm still working to identify the other sons. Without the aid of a bible record, I may never know who the daughters were. They were all born before 1790.

      Joseph Wallace died in York District without a will about 1807. Although there is an estate file for him, it is far from complete. The file consists of letters of administration and an inventory. There is not a list of buyers at the estate sale, a list of creditors, nor a settlement sheet where heirs might have been named. I suspect some of these papers were lost over the years. The younger Joseph and Jane were appointed administrators. It has taken a good deal of detective work to try to identify some other members of Joseph's immediate family. This work has led me to believe that James was one of his sons.

      Joseph's widow Jane was still living in York District in 1810. She was counted as an age 45+ head of household. The only other person tallied in the home was a 16-26-year-old female. All of the sons had left home, even though some of them were still teenagers. It's possible they had been apprenticed out to learn a trade. That was a common practice in those days.

      The younger Joseph and James Wallace enjoyed a close association over the years. This associated led me to conclude that they were brothers. They lived near each other, and they are both buried in Bethel Cemetery.
      Starting in September 1816, Joseph and James Wallace and Samuel Wright became involved in the disposition of 1088 acres of land on Allison Creek. William Edward Haynes had conveyed this land to them on that date. Blood or marriage may relate all these men.
      In November 1820, Samuel Wright conveyed 648 acres of the Allison Creek land to Joseph and James Wallace. They in turn deeded 440 acres to Samuel Wright. The following month Joseph and James, in separate transactions, equally divided their 648 acres among themselves. Their wives, both named Margaret, relinquished their dower rights. The witnesses to the December transactions were William McCullough and Benjamin Clark. Duncan McCallum and John Jackson had witnessed the November transaction.

      James Wallace served in the War of 1812. His tombstone in Bethel cemetery is inscribed with the remark "He was a soldier of the War of 1812." I don't have the particulars of his military service.

      James married Margaret E. Barnett sometime between 1815 and 1820. She was the daughter of Alexander Barnett, Sr. (1774-1851) and his wife Rachel Adams (1777-1857). Alexander referred to Margaret Wallace as his daughter in his December 1849 will. He willed her a slave named Ben and $50.00. She was also to receive a share of unspecified property. Margaret is also mentioned in her mother's 1850 will that was probated in 1857. The Bametts are buried in Bethel Cemetery.
      In November 1834, James Wallace, Alexander Barnett and three others were directed by the court to appraise the estate of Richard Barnett. The following October

      James Wallace, Joseph Wallace, Alexander Bamett, Sr., William Currence and Lessley Wright were directed to appraise the estate of Moses Bigger.

      We begin to see the size of James Wallace's family from the 1830 York Census. He was recorded on the same page and two lines away from his brother Joseph Wallace. James and Margaret were tallied as 30-40 years old. His household also included a boy and a girl 10-15 years of age, one boy 5-10 and one girt 0-5.
      James and Margaret had at least 11 children and seven of them were still living at home when the census taker called in 1850. That year the family consisted of James (age 57), Margaret (age 51), Jane E. R. (age 30) Margaret (age 24), Henry A. (age 21), Joseph F. (age 19), Martha A. (age 14), John R. H. (age 12), and Samuel W. (age 9). Everyone listed had been bom in York District.

      James and Margaret had a daughter Mary E., who died 25 May 1838 at the age of four years and seven months. She is buried in Bethel Cemetery.
      There is an 1862 York estate file for John R. H. Wallace. With a death in that time period, John, about age 24, could have been a casualty of the Civil War.1 Z. D. Smith administered his estate.

      James Wallace died in York District 18 May 1863. His death was reported in the Yorkville Enquirer, where it was stated that he had been an Elder in Bethel Church for six years. James was buried In Bethel Cemetery. His tombstone reads that at his death he was age 70 years, one month and 21 days. This information yields a date of birth of 27 March 1793. His marker (surname spelled Wallis) also records that he had been a long and efficient member of the Presbyterian Church.

      Margaret E. Wallace survived her husband by 17 years. Information received in a letter from society member Lillian R. Hill dated Dec. 2003 established that Margaret died 18 Nov 1880 in Texas. A number of Wallaces moved there after the Civil War.

      Sources:
      1. First Census of the U.S. (SC-York County), p. 29.
      2. Second Census of the U.S. (SC-York District), p. 960.
      3. York County, SC Estate File for Joseph Wallace—Box 64, #2950.
      4. Third Census of the U.S. (SC-York District), p. 267.
      5. York County, SC Deed Book H-258.
      6. York County, SC Deed Book I-254.
      7. York County , SC Deed Book K-124; K-149.
      8. Bethel Cemetery Record for James Wallis.
      9. Holcomb, York County, SC Will Abstracts (1787-1862), 2002, pp. 203,206,290, 329.
      10. Bethel Cemetery Record for Alexander and Rachel Bamett.
      11. Fifth Census of the U.S. (SC-York District), p. 386.
      12. Seventh Census of the U.S. (SC-York District), p. 301.
      13. Bethel Cemetery Record for Mary E. Wallace.
      14. York County, SC Probate Index-John R. H. Wallace (case 49, #2026)
      15. York County, SC Probate Index—James Wallis (case 49, #2024)
      16. Holcomb, York County. SC Newspapers-Marriages and Death Notices (1823-1865). 1989, p. 96.
      1 Editor's note- John R. H. Wallace is listed in the Confederate Veterans Enrollment Book, compiled by Jo Roberts Owens and Ruth Dfckson Thomas as a member of Co. H. 5"1 SC Vol., Jenkins Inf. Corporal, age 23 when killed at Gaines Mill, Virginia.
      YCGHS, June 2004
      York County [SC] Genealogical and Historical Society
      Editor Louise Pettis

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    2. [S1125] Notes of Wallace Family, Ancestral Memories: Joseph Wallace Posted 02 Jan 2020 by John Schmeeckle.
      Ancestral Memories: Joseph Wallace
      Posted 02 Jan 2020 by John Schmeeckle
      Ancestral Memories: Joseph Wallace
      recorded by John Schmeeckle
      NOTE: I typed as my ancestor 'spoke.' The stories of Joseph's son and grandson (both named William) are attached to their own pages, as are the stories of Joseph's Wallace ancestors for many generations.

      Joseph Wallace (d. 1807), husband of Jane McIlvey

      (Apr. 25, 2019) Joseph Wallace did not have a good life. Joseph had to leave. Joseph had to move.
      (Apr. 26, 2019) Joseph Wallace had a life that was easy until there was a terrible need. Joseph was the son of an immigrant. This meant, nobody knew that Wallace was Catholic. Oliver left the Catholic faith. Joseph had no thought of being Catholic. Joseph understood, a Catholic family would not have anyone to marry.
      (Apr. 27, 2019) Joseph was unable to find a wife from the families of similar station. Joseph found a wife from a lower station. This was not a good family. The wife had to be able to help. The wife hoped to be the wife of a gentleman. That meant, the wife wanted to not work. The wife was very disappointed. Joseph had to imagine that Joseph shared the problem. The wife was never properly told that Joseph had to work to live.
      (May 1, 2019) Joseph had to think. Joseph had a new way. There was no other. Wallace was new. Wallace was always known. When Wallace appeared, Scotsmen were attentive. Wallace could fight. Wallace had sons. The sons fought. Wallace had to be prevented.
      (May 2, 2019) Joseph Wallace did not have a way. There was no way to continue as Joseph was.
      (May 3, 2019) Joseph went to a new area. Joseph had to be aware. Wallace was not here. This meant, Wallace was not feared. Joseph does not think that Wallace was viewed as evil. Wallace was simply viewed as being able to dominate. Joseph understood, Wallace gave strength until Wallace became the strongest.
      (May 4, 2019) Joseph was able. There was good land. Joseph had a wife. Sons began. The community began to be uneasy. Joseph had to be aware of the need for a son to leave. This was not a good decision. Joseph was unable. Joseph could not demand. The son who had to leave was not inclined. Joseph had to find another way.
      (May 7, 2019) Joseph had to do as Joseph never wanted. Joseph had to challenge. A man was encroaching. Joseph understood the rule. If a man encroached, he must be resisted. Otherwise, he would continue. Joseph had to do as Joseph never imagined. Joseph waited. The man came. The man intended. Joseph attacked. The attack was simple. Joseph struck with a rock. The man was stunned. Joseph beat. The face of the man was clear.
      (May 9, 2019) Joseph waited. There would be a response. The man had family. The family was aware. Joseph made it clear. The land would not be stolen. The man that Joseph spoke to did not respond. This meant, the man heard.
      (May 13, 2019) Joseph now had to think. The man was wounded. The man would recover. There would be no permanent mark. The man expected. Neighbors were talking. The man hoped. One neighbor asked Joseph, “How many do you have?” Joseph did not think. Joseph said, “five.” Joseph understood, it was necessary to speak without counting. The neighbor was surprised. Joseph had already thought. A number was necessary. This was how neighbors calculated. The man who encroached had said “four.”
      (May 16, 2019) Joseph did not think of the number. Joseph had prepared. Three men were able. Joseph had to promise, if necessary, to help in return. This was always understood. Joseph was going into debt. The three men also understood. There would be a split in the community. Two of the men were already of a mind to resist.
      (May 17, 2019) Joseph did not have any difficulty. There was no fight. The man was unwilling. The man did not bother. There was no more. The neighbor kept his place.
      (May 18, 2019) Joseph did not have a further difficulty with this neighbor. Another neighbor was also unwilling to encroach. Joseph had a third neighbor. This neighbor hoped. Joseph observed. The man was organizing. Fencing was being assembled. Joseph understood. The man intended to build a fence that cut the property of Joseph. This would bring the man close.
      Joseph hoped. There would be a way to avoid. The man had a helper. Joseph had three. Joseph had to think.
      (May 23, 2019) Joseph had to attack. The material was burned. The fence was destroyed.
      (May 29, 2019) Joseph had to pay. The man claimed that Joseph invaded. Joseph did not defend. The man claimed that Joseph destroyed. Joseph did not defend. The man claimed that Joseph destroyed three buildings. Joseph defended. Joseph told a jury that the man assembled wood for a fence. The man already lost a court case. One of the jurors was a juror on that case. The man tried again. Joseph destroyed after the man encroached.
      (June 5, 2019) Joseph was able to persuade. The jury found no guilt. Joseph acted in self-defense. The man was horrified. The man knew that his payment to the judge was the wrong tactic. The judge tried. The jury listened. The judge could not counter.
      (June 15, 2019) Joseph had further trouble. The man hoped. Another neighbor was persuaded. Joseph could not defend. The sons were young. The other neighbor thought to take. Joseph had to think. Two neighbors made a force that Joseph had to be prepared to avoid.
      (June 21, 2019) Joseph had to imagine. Two neighbors would plan. The plan was for one neighbor to change the boundary. The other neighbor would change another boundary when Joseph was occupied correcting the first boundary. Joseph understood, if Joseph was able to go from one boundary to the other quickly, or have a man watching the second boundary, the second neighbor could be stopped. The only problem would be with the first. Joseph had three young sons. All of them could shoot. Joseph instructed. Each should shoot for the foot.
      (July 14, 2019) Joseph waited. A man began. Joseph attacked. The man was wounded. Another man was going to begin. Sons shot. The foot was hit. The man limped away.
      Joseph had to expect. A sheriff approached. The man who encroached was wounded. The sheriff had to investigate. Joseph understood. The sheriff was not hostile. The man was known to be seeking to steal. The sheriff had to think. Joseph explained. The other man was not someone that the sheriff knew. The other man was wounded in the foot. The sheriff decided to visit and question. The sons observed. Joseph hoped. The sons would learn to defend, and to respect authority. Joseph had to accept, later, when the community decided to make Joseph pay.
      (July 24, 2019) Joseph had a decision to make. Either leave or accept that one son must leave. Joseph decided to insist that one son leave. The middle son was the one chosen. This was not a difficult decision. The middle son had just married. It would be easy for the middle son to make a new home on the frontier. Joseph imagined that, if the youngest went to the frontier as a single man, the boy would not be able to marry well. Joseph decided to help the youngest find a wife.
      (Aug. 4, 2019) Joseph had a feeling. The son who left would not endure. Joseph had to think. How would the death come? Joseph understood, the frontier was dangerous. Joseph also understood, there was a way for a man to prosper if the man survived and settlements grew into villages. Joseph did this where Joseph lived. The son had the opportunity to do the same.
      Joseph felt when the son was murdered. Joseph, because of the sight, understood. The death would provoke the family to move to the west. Joseph, because of the sight, understood: The family would marry another family. Joseph, because of the sight, understood: This other family carried the sight without using. The sight was preparing. Joseph was being given. Joseph was at peace.
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      the false Scottish ancestry of William Wallace
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      a_wylie_scribe The DNA test appears to be quite close, off on only one marker, as to make these two of the same family, but more must be learned on how close they must be if from lines of two brothers, sons of a putative but near proven eighteenth century Oliver Wallace of the Deer Park in Ardstraw, County Tyrone, Ireland. Photo of Oliver and family's ancient passport and Oliver's even more ancient Letter of Recommendation exist on several trees here.
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      wallacerl_1 I've followed that path myself, and am about to pay a professional to research Oliver. Many Wallaces left Ayr and went to this section of Ireland, so with the information Oliver was born in Ireland, that means I'm a true Scots-Irish. Where is the DNA research located, and the passpot/letter of recommendation? With my line in the US well documented, my DNA may assist in the efforts.
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